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Ringling Walmart: What Sarasota's Saying

Here are some reactions from Patch readers about last week's city commission decision about the future of a proposed Walmart Supercenter on Ringling Boulevard. What's your take?

The Sarasota City Commission's decision on Ringling Boulevard has Patch readers talking.

Here's what some of them had to say about Tuesday's narrow decision on the downtown development plans:

Bruce Miller: "I am not a big Walmart Fan but come on people we need to get that area in shape! And there is something to say about adding 250 jobs to the area. I guess the people in the Alta Vista area are happy with that sorry looking shopping center that is there. There are not many companies that would or could even think about building in that area and making it work. Walmart has the ability to improve that area like few could. It would have been a positive step for an area that needs improvement."

Claire Franklin: "... I disagree. Walmart does not belong in downtown. The jobs it brings are all minimum wage and actually cause a drain on the local economy (because Walmart sends its profits out of the area) and also creates an un-winnable situation for local merchants who cannot compete with a company that size. ..."

Charlie Mac: "People coming together. Commissioner who voted in favor need to be voted out."

John Wright: "OK thanks for keeping that "big box store" out of the neighborhood. For a while there I actually thought that the people from the area really wanted JOBS and WORK!"

gene pollux: "Congratulations. The usual Sarasota shoots itself in the foot theater.  That entire area looks like a ghost town/garbage dump, depressing property values etc., so we're better off not having someone....anyone.......developing it."

Jay Vandroff: "just more proof the city is anti business. many may not like Wallmart but look at what they have done to the area, the Lock wood ridge location, a great improvement, north trail, another great improvement to the area which needed improvement. The City has been anti Wallmart from the beginning. Those who complain that Wallmart will take business away from the 'mom and pops' stores, well, not seeing too many of those stores around Ring ling anymore... they left a long time ago.. time to get your heads out of the sand Sarasota....Wallmart is giving the opportunity to improve the area which is needed."

curioso: "It all boils down to whether we follow the laws for development of the town (the comp plan) or let developers and staff throw all that community planning out the window whenever they want at the expense of the residents and traffic congestion creating gridlock on our streets. It now is necessary for citizens to be vigilant constantly to protect themselves against developers AND their own city staff. The rule of law is at stake."

Kathryn Baker: "Imagine that, the Walmart store was voted down. Now Sarasota can continue to point with pride to the Ringling Ghost Town Shopping Center. I would bet that in ten years that creepy old shopping center will still be sitting there with its oddball assortment of little stores that come and go. Well Alta Vista neighbors, you wanted to keep it old and dumpy and you got it."

RB: "Yes, other options are necessary for development of that site, not what was proposed. Code enforcement needs to be exercised to get the buildings back in shape and realistic rents will draw lots of new business in this economy as it struggles to turn around. That is the time when new businesses are able to take a risk and get creative."

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Ed Girard March 4, 2013 at 11:57 am
Planners are not the ones who develop or come up with the money to make it happen, they are the dreamers. Let's get REAL and wipe out the imagined fantasies of some group of "planners" (who probably do not even live here) and get realistic about OUR town.
Hawkeye March 4, 2013 at 12:35 pm
Ed. Excellent comment and I for one, cannot begin to understand when they say to add yet another 'box' store, esp. in the heart of this beautiful city, would 'enchance' it. And they speak of jobs.. Walmart pay's min wage and the only employees who receive health care benefits, are the CEO's. To be honest, some nice retail outlets would work great in the location and there's plenty of space. Would generate 'real' jobs and 'enchance' the area. But another Walmart, where 99% of the goods are manufactured in China.. no thanks..
Ian Black March 4, 2013 at 01:14 pm
I couldn't be more in agreement with the recent lettering the Sarasota Herald Tribune "with Walmart rejected opportunities abound". I rarely concur with Commissioner Turner's positions but on this occasion he summed it up distinctly "this is a suburban building in an urban setting".From my perspective ,as a commercial real estate broker who has practiced for over 30 years in our community ,the subject property is unique in many respects and therefore demands a use or uses that are in keeping with the aspirations of those who strive to make Sarasota exceptional and are compatible with the surrounding neighborhood.
Things happen for a reason and a debt of gratitude is owed to the appellants whose efforts have afforded all concerned a significant opportunity to make a difference . When life hands you lemons make lemonade. Ian Black
Becky Gabriel March 4, 2013 at 01:17 pm
The company that owns Ringling Shopping Center stopped renewing leases some time ago in anticipation of selling the entire building. Publix offered to buy it but was turned down, (not enough money) and so they moved. Walmart is one company that had enough bucks to pay the price and develop it into something. So, ultimately, it seems that the agenda of the buildings's owner has been the impetus for what has occurred.
Kim Northrop March 4, 2013 at 02:31 pm
It would be great to essentially move the downtown Saturday Farmer's Market to that space. I can't always make it down Saturday morning, and I would love to buy all my produce from local farmers. Publix--with it's refrigeration and storage space--would be perfect for this.
Gail Harvey March 4, 2013 at 04:23 pm
My husband suggested that the location would make for an "almost downtown" Goodwill store. Goodwill does not stay open past 8 PM.
Yrs. ago when I was in high school, The City had a Main St. Goodwill. I shop at Goodwill & see many people that appear much more wealthy than I shopping there. Part of the parking lot could be a Farmer's/Craft Market on weekends. The remaining storefronts could be eateries & custom collector shops much like the St. Pete area has done. B.T.W. St. Pete forgives 1st X parking offenders once a Yr. w/ you produce a receipt of spending $25. at a local business. HELLO CITY OF SARASOTA!
Pamela Mott March 4, 2013 at 09:19 pm
Has anyone EVER considered a mixed use complex here in SRQ? I lived in Orlando and a desolate mall became the wonder of Winter Park, with apartment, condos and shops intermingled. People could actually walk from their homes to these place. Perhaps Mr. Black or Mr Biter could come up with some alternate property developement ideas for the Ringling disaster.
bob graff March 18, 2013 at 11:55 am
I think it would have been a great site for Walmart. It would be like the one well exactly 9 miles dead north of it and no ones complaining there. The people that shop down town aren't the same folks that shop at walmart. The one thing i noticed about walmart is that the surrounding businesses usually thrive.
Nicole April 6, 2013 at 01:39 pm
More walmarts more crime get them out!

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