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City Commission Narrowly Denies Ringling Blvd. Walmart Plan

Commissioners Shannon Snyder, Willie Charles Shaw and Terry Turner voted to deny Walmart's site plan approval for a Supercenter downtown.

If Walmart wants to build a new store in the Ringling Shopping Center, the big box will have to go to court.

The City Commission on Tuesday night narrowly denied Walmart's site plan for a proposed 98,000-square-foot Supercenter on Ringling Boulevard.

Commissioners Shannon Snyder, Vice Mayor Willie Charles Shaw and Terry Turner voted to deny the site plan while Mayor Suzanne Atwell and Commissioner Paul Caragiulo voted against. The hearing was continued from Feb. 19.

"The applicant is proposing, essentially, a suburban big box store in an urban environment," Turner said. 

The City Commission was tasked with deciding whether the Walmart's site plan complies the the CSC-N zoning code.

"It brings forth the flaws presently found in our codes," Shaw said.

The appellants, a group of neighbors from the Alta Vista neighborhood, argued that Walmart is defined as a department store as well as being too large for a store of its sized for the property, according to code.

The appellants are:

  • Candy Spaulding, President, Alta Vista Neighborhood Association.
  • Juanita Rawlinson, Secretary and past President, Alta Vista Neighborhood Association. 
  • Pat Kolodgy, Sargent at Arms & past President, Alta Vista Neighborhood Association.
  • Kelly Kirschner, past President, Alta Vista Neighborhood Association, former mayor
  • Jerry Sparkman, partner, Sweet Sparkman Architects,
  • Marian A. Maxson Martin, neighbor

The commission members had to base their decision on competent substantive evidence, which means that though the three hours of public testimony may help in a decision, it doesn't bear enough weight to be the end-all. Instead, the commission relied on evidence and testimony provided by the appellants, city staff and Walmart to argue whether or not the project's site plan is acceptable under the Sarasota's zoning plan.

Atwell sided with staff's arguments that if Walmart wasn't going to be allowed as a large store, then the Southgate Mall and other developments should have been denied.

"To me, the staff testimony has met the interpretation of the code in a substantive, competent manner," Atwell said.

Caragiulo said after the vote that the city's code needs work after the uncertainty found in the language exposed by both sides.

"Something needs to be done about our code," Caragiulo said. 

Turner recognized how much city staff were beat up by the public in the testimony, and does not blame them for what happened with the project.

"I find the city staff work on this project to be professional and exemplary," he said. "The criticisms by appellants against staff were I think, completely inappropriate."

Now the city commission is obliged to state in writing all the reasons for denial, according to City Attorney Robert Fournier.

Walmart could appeal the commission's decision by taking the case to Circuit Court, and that decision remains to be seen.

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Charlie Mac February 27, 2013 at 04:00 am
People coming together. Commissioner who voted in favor need to be voted out .
RB February 27, 2013 at 04:03 am
to clarify, the article reads: "Commissioners Shannon Snyder, Vice Mayor Willie Charles Shaw and Terry Turner voted to deny the site plan while Mayor Suzanne Atwell and Commissioner Paul Caragiulo voted against."
Atwell and Caragiulo voted against Shaw's motion to prevent the Walmart. The motion passed with the votes of Shaw, Turner, and Snyder. Caragiulo was ready with a motion to allow the Walmart to be built and by her statement, it would have been the choice of Atwell.
Bruce Miller February 27, 2013 at 04:26 am
I am not a big Walmart Fan but come on people we need to get that area in shape!
And there is something to say about adding 250 jobs to the area. I guess the people in the Alta Vista area are happy with that sorry looking shopping center that is there. There are not many companies that would or could even think about building in that area and making it work. Walmart has the ability to improve that area like few could. It would have been a positive step for an area that needs improvement.
Michael Regulbuto February 27, 2013 at 05:01 am
I agree with you Bruce. I have been a homeowner on Shade Ave for 30 years and own a second house on Jefferson Ave I have owned almost as long. Something needs to be done to the shopping center as it is a detriment to our neighborhood. When I moved to Shade Ave 30 years ago Ringling Shopping Center was booming. Great stores for almost everything you would need. One by one they closed until Publix bailed and the center died. Now it is mostly vacant. Once our neighborhood seniors and myself would walk to the plaza for their weekly shopping...those days are gone. I did not agree with a 24 hour Walmart. Perhaps one that closes at 10pm would work or a market place like on north trail. Something must be done.
RB February 27, 2013 at 05:11 am
Yes, other options are necessary for development of that site, not what was proposed. Code enforcement needs to be exercised to get the buildings back in shape and realistic rents will draw lots of new business in this economy as it struggles to turn around. That is the time when new businesses are able to take a risk and get creative.
John Wright February 27, 2013 at 05:18 am
OK thanks for keeping that "big box store" out of the neighborhood. For a while there I actually thought that the people from the area really wanted JOBS and WORK!
RB February 27, 2013 at 05:26 am
Yup, and the two voted in have to be from the ranks of Chapman, Holland, and Theisen unless you want to see the next vote like this tipping the other way.
William Boyle February 27, 2013 at 05:28 am
good
RB February 27, 2013 at 05:30 am
Think they are thinking instead of places to spend their money that would appeal to them, preserve the neighborhood, and keep the values of their homes up.
Dawn Keebawls February 27, 2013 at 10:23 am
Me want Walmart near me.
Charlesworth Longtooth III February 27, 2013 at 12:34 pm
When factoring in the jobs the project will bring in, one must also consider the jobs that will be lost and the tax revenue lost when a store such as Wal-mart closes Mom and Pop stores that don't have the buying power to compete.
gene pollux February 27, 2013 at 01:59 pm
Congratulations.
The usual Sarasota shoots itself in the foot theater. That entire area looks like a ghost town/garbage dump, depressing property values etc., so we're better off not having someone....anyone.......developing it. Just wondering who will meet the stamp of approval? Not all can afford to drive our hip sexy Rover to Whole Foods - most of us actually like to have affordable groceries close by. And regarding traffic.....REALLY? If all the (now vacant and/or run down) commercial properties in the area were filled and running well, what do you think that would do for traffic? Me thinks that that right now Publix is breathing a big sigh of relief, and we're stuck with still having to drive far for cheap or stay close for expensive groceries. Thank you. Job well done.
Jay Vandroff February 27, 2013 at 02:02 pm
just more proof the city is anti business. many may not like Wallmart but look at what they have done to the area, the Lock wood ridge location, a great improvement, north trail, another great improvement to the area which needed improvement. The City has been anti Wallmart from the beginning. Those who complain that Wallmart will take business away from the "mom and pops" stores, well, not seeing too many of those stores around Ring ling anymore... they left a long time ago.. time to get your heads out of the sand Sarasota....Wallmart is giving the opportunity to improve the area which is needed.
Claire Franklin February 27, 2013 at 02:32 pm
I agree. The "Southgate Mall" argument is ridiculous. Southgate Mall is a collection of smaller independent stores, while Walmart is one big store with one ownership. Not the same thing at all, obviously. Besides the fact that Southgate isn't even in downtown.
Claire Franklin February 27, 2013 at 02:38 pm
I disagree. Walmart does not belong in downtown. The jobs it brings are all minimum wage and actually cause a drain on the local economy (because Walmart sends its profits out of the area) and also creates an un-winnable situation for local merchants who cannot compete with a company that size. Now maybe the building owner can proceed with some remodeling and renting out the spaces. Too bad this whole issue has caused the existing tenants to flee the building. Walmart killed that shopping center, even if they aren't tearing it down physically. Let's work to get it back and reclaim a part of Sarasota's history.
Deborah Weatherby February 27, 2013 at 03:54 pm
I live in an area that is across from Walmart in Osprey, I was against it and Rodgiques and his cronies got it approved by shipping in "neighbors" who were all for it. However in the end it is across the street, they put up a large bern to hide it from the neighborhood, the traffic was not adversely affected and I have to admit, it is quite convenient. And that area of Osprey which was littered with closed businesses, the old Hoosiers Restaurant and other shuttered buildings that were an eyesore are gone. Maybe sometimes the knee jerk reaction to Walmart should be looked at more closely. Are low wage jobs so bad, the hiring of people that no one else will hire, they are jobs, and the argument that mom and pop stores will suffer, there are no mom and pop stores there anymore. Now the shopping center will now become a gathering place for all those that you want out of your neighborhoods, vandalism, drug use, prositution, now those are the type of mom and pop businesses that the shopping center will host.
curioso February 27, 2013 at 04:21 pm
It all boils down to whether we follow the laws for development of the town (the comp plan) or let developers and staff throw all that community planning out the window whenever they want at the expense of the residents and traffic congestion creating gridlock on our streets. It now is necessary for citizens to be vigilant constantly to protect themselves against developers AND their own city staff. The rule of law is at stake. It is an economic collapse brought about by such speculation that is limiting growth at the moment. Bringing a massive Walmart in with 8-dollar-an-hour jobs to draw away customers from our nearby downtown is not a solution for our economy or our workers. Destroying an appealing walk-to-town-and-park neighborhood in the same process is suicidal for a community. Suzanne Atwell and Paul Caragiulo have proved their lack of concern for the people who elected them. Remember this at the ballot box.
RB February 27, 2013 at 04:44 pm
If some of the candidates running in the current election are elected, the commission will become solidly for the overturn of our regulations. I can not vote for Atwell, Dorfman, or Lumpkin for this very reason and I hope that this close vote will show voters how dangerous it would be to elect any of these three. Caragiulo will be running in the district elections in two years if he stays aimed at a city seat.
Dan Quarteran February 27, 2013 at 05:03 pm
As stated above, the issue here is about following good standards in the planning process. From the beginning, it's always been an issue of scale of development. The jobs issue exists in a wider context that isn't dependent on one big box employer.
Come up with a boutique Wally and split the difference.
Kathryn Baker February 27, 2013 at 05:20 pm
Imagine that, the Walmart store was voted down. Now Sarasota can continue to point with pride to the Ringling Ghost Town Shopping Center. I would bet that in ten years that creepy old shopping center will still be sitting there with its oddball assortment of little stores that come and go. Well Alta Vista neighbors, you wanted to keep it old and dumpy and you got it.
Gordon Hornikel Jr. February 27, 2013 at 06:24 pm
Mayor Atwall is not a leader she only care's about the people that are on her who's-who list .Her only thing she know's how to say is WE MUST MOVE FORWARD OR I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THAT !!!!! Maby she could get a job at wallmart doing what she does best CUTTING RIBBON'S!!!!!!!
Hawkeye February 27, 2013 at 10:42 pm
Bruce, I agree with yuour comment to some extent, yes, we do need jobs.. but not jobs that do not provide health care. The only employees of Walmart that receive health care, are the CEOs. Also, would a Walmart be an asset to the community.. esp. downtown? No, it would not be.If someone asked me where I reside, I feel much better by saying I live across the street from Shamrock's Pub, (by the way, the greatest little watering hole in Sarasota), than I would by saying; 'I live right next door to Walmart'.. Get what I mean..it's the 'local ' owned businesses which make Sarasota the great city it is.. and not the corporate owned box stores, where 90% of the goods are manufactured in China.
Hawkeye February 27, 2013 at 10:44 pm
Yea John, a lot of good 250 min paying jobs with no health care would help, when the average rent is $1000.00 per month.
Hawkeye February 27, 2013 at 10:47 pm
Jay, you would be right, with the exception you are boosting China's economy and not the United States.. Jay, go to your local Walmart and see where 99% of thei product they sell, where it was manufactured - China!
Hawkeye February 27, 2013 at 10:51 pm
How about small-scale outlet stores... much like they have in Ellenton, but at a smaller scale?
c low March 1, 2013 at 08:35 pm
Wal-Mart is not a save all by any means do some research on your the fairy tail you are holding Wal-Mart up to. They are not good for anybody. 250 minum wage jobs Yya!
c low March 1, 2013 at 08:42 pm
Was'nt the sherrif departmrnt just whining about needing more space? problem solved.
Hawkeye March 1, 2013 at 08:42 pm
Yea gene, and by adding a Walmart, increases and enchases the beauty of downtown.. how?!
Hawkeye March 1, 2013 at 08:44 pm
Jay, Sarasota 'is' for business.. just not a business that supports violating human rights as Walmart does. Jay, 99% of the goods sold at Walmart is imported from China, made by sweatshop labor. The only Walmart employees who receive health care are the CEO's.. next!
Hawkeye March 1, 2013 at 08:46 pm
exactly mc low.. good suggestion!

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